Maischberger: Göring-Eckardt expects the rule to end in the Bundestag for those who have recovered

IA possible vaccination demand was discussed in the Bundestag on Wednesday, and political supporters and opponents gathered for the discussion at Maischberger’s political talk. The conflict in Ukraine was also an issue.

ARD anchor Karen Miusga, Melanie Aman, DC bureau chief, Spiegel, and Robin Alexander, WELT deputy editor-in-chief sat at the table. Marie Agnes Strack Zimmermann (Chairman of the Defense Committee) and Putin biographer Hubert Seibel spoke about the conflict in Ukraine. Vice-President of the Bundestag Catherine Goering Eckhardt (Green Party) and Dietmar Bartsch, leader of the left-wing parliamentary group, discussed compulsory vaccination against Corona.

In fact, the unvaccinated antagonist, Sahra Wagenknecht, was planned as a guest on Bartsch. But she tested positive for coronavirus in the morning and had to cancel. The 52-year-old continues to refuse to introduce a general obligation to vaccination, which was discussed in the Bundestag on Wednesday.

Göring-Eckardt on ‘Maischberger’: ‘We don’t feel it anymore, we can’t anymore’

Bartsch is also against compulsory vaccination, but encourages vaccination. The 63-year-old was vaccinated three times and, according to his own statements, tried to persuade his party colleague Wagenknecht to be vaccinated. Bartsch sees the danger that compulsory vaccination could radicalize parts of society.

However, Göring-Eckardt has always seen this dichotomy. This can be observed in East Germany in particular, for example in the state of Mecklenburg-Vorpommern. This is where the green politician has her fan following: “Acceptance of vaccination is lower there than in West Germany.”

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However, Göring-Eckardt sees the appeasement in the duty to vaccinate from the age of 18: “So that’s clear. It’s no longer about fighting for this or that direction. But that is the case. As with the seat belt clause, where many resisted it. of people in the past.”

Plus, like most people, two years into the pandemic, Göring Eckhardt said, “We don’t feel like it anymore, we can’t do that anymore.” They no longer have family visits. “If we want to live life as it was before the pandemic, we need compulsory vaccination,” said Göring Eckhardt.

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Bundestag and compulsory vaccination

This is not enough for Bartsch as an argument. “We know very little about Corona,” the politician said. If a new type of coronavirus emerges, no one can say today what that means for vaccinations. No virologist knows which new variant might prevail in the fall. Bartsch says the booster vaccination, which was given at the end of 2021, will not work after about a year.

“The vaccination requirement is not enforceable,” Bartsch said. Instead, more vaccinations should be promoted. The group of people who oppose vaccination is so heterogeneous that some still need persuasion.

“It wasn’t a good idea and that’s why it was changed.”

Convalescence in the Bundestag was also a topic. Status restored there was still six months due to a general decree of the President of the Bundestag Barbel Bass (SPD), while it was shortened to three for RKI citizens.

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“It wasn’t a good idea and that’s why it was changed. I’m absolutely sure of that,” Göring Eckhardt said.

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The fact that the special regulation bothered a lot of people, said the deputy speaker of Parliament, “I understand that very well.” “The (Bundestag) president decided that and decided according to the regulations in force in Berlin,” said Göring Eckhardt. In the state of Berlin, the 2G-plus rule applies for six months for those who have recovered from juveniles.

Germany-Ukraine conflict: ‘There could be more’

Meysberger also spoke to journalists Alexander, Miusga and Aman about reducing convalescence – and about the conflict in Ukraine.

Russia has been building a massive threat landscape for weeks. More than 100,000 Russian soldiers are stationed near the Ukrainian border, and President Vladimir Putin has announced military exercises on all seas. Western countries such as the United States and the military NATO threaten to retaliate if Russia attacks Ukraine.

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Germany obstructs Ukraine’s defense equipment, WELT journalist Alexander criticized.

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Guests at ‘Maischberbger’, left to right: Melanie Amann (Member Editor-in-Chief of Spiegel), Robin Alexander (Deputy Editor-in-Chief of ‘Die Welt’), Karen Miusga (ARD) and Sandermashburger

Source: WDR / Oliver Ziebe / © WDR

On the other hand, Aman, a journalist at Spiegel, believes that there is a strategic sense in not delivering weapons to Ukraine. Arming Ukraine militarily sends the wrong signal to Russia. Chancellor Schultz does not show a clear strategy for getting involved in this issue. Aman said Schulz is new to the position, which may explain the lack of position, but he does have experienced military advisors. “There could be more.”

Putin won’t come home if he doesn’t achieve something.

Marie Agnes Strack Zimmermann spoke out against providing Ukraine with German weapons. The FDP politician heads the Defense Committee and is a member of the NATO Group, an association of members of the Bundestag. Strack-Zimmermann argued that if the federal government were to send the tanks, they would be accused on all sides of fueling a potential war. “We can only hope we can keep talking to each other.”

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The politician said that President Putin, through his military actions, wanted to divert attention from Russia’s domestic political problems. But Western countries could not accept that. “People in the Balkans are afraid,” said the 63-year-old. The situation is serious, and other countries will take note as well. Sweden and Finland, for example. These in fact neutral countries are currently considering rapprochement with NATO.

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Hubert Seipel, a journalist and author of two books on Putin, sees a lot of exaggeration on the part of the West. “We live in hysteria,” he said. The deployment of Russian soldiers to the border with Ukraine is considered “gradual”. You can understand that this is a threat, but Putin will not risk war, Sybil assessed the situation. He said that NATO, the world’s largest military alliance, had cornered Russia.

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Strack-Zimmermann also hopes there will be no military strike, but: “Putin is a strong politician. He won’t go home unless he achieves something territorial.”

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